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Post by HellstormOP on Aug 13, 2011 15:15:57 GMT -5
UPDATE: Silica is definitely not a good thickening agent, as it leaves clumps during burning, which also hold the nitrate. What I am looking for is some thickening agent which burns off without leaving much residue. I've also started the discussion at sciencemadness.org - let's see if we will discover the secret of the Night Furies' fire soon.
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Post by toothless11 on Aug 13, 2011 15:18:10 GMT -5
Lol. I dont understand anything at all. I don't know much about different types of fire and whatnot, but Im curious too to find that out XD.
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Post by HellstormOP on Aug 13, 2011 15:33:38 GMT -5
But you have a useful animation in your signature^^ Well, I have to admit, my last posts were very scientific. Maybe too scientific for this board. But since I have the same discussion at Sciencemadness, I guess I will find out everything quite quickly. I will also try to keep things simple from now, and to keep the chemical details out of my posts here. I think the analysis of the screenshots and the movie itself is fitting better in this board, maybe someone else also will have some great ideas about that, without having much knowledge about chemistry.
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Post by toothless11 on Aug 13, 2011 15:40:07 GMT -5
Lol I dint notice that XD.
And yeah, I hope they answer you at the other forum XD. I don't think anyonre knows about that stuff. But like I said, im curious to know XD.
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Post by HellstormOP on Aug 17, 2011 5:32:00 GMT -5
OK, I took a look at the screenshots again. What I've noticed, is that sometimes a few small flaming drops dispersed from the fireball, or at explosion. That means, that the designers really used a well made liquid/semi-solid effect, and didn't just play around with ball lightning/energy ball stuff. Also, the orange sooty fireball really forms when acetylene explodes. Which leads to the conclusion, that they really have some sort of theory how the fire works, and not just took an effect and threw some science in. Serimon: Your pics are really awesome, I notice this over and over again. Please pack them in one single archive and upload it at Rapidshare or something like this, so that I can download them all at once.
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Post by HellstormOP on Dec 11, 2011 8:59:45 GMT -5
I've put the experiments on hold for a while, but I will continue them soon. Until then, here is a less scientific explanation (own work) It's a few percent thickener, a small rate of wonder. A good portion of concentrated essence of thunder. The bulk of organic fuel, a fair dose of gas. And a hundred percent reason to not survive the blast!
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Post by buckmana on Apr 24, 2013 19:46:10 GMT -5
I'm assuming Night Fury "fire" isn't something that can be explained in terms of normal science.
Keep in mind Dragons use magic and don't necessarily have to obey the laws of physics.
The color is most likely purple because Toothless' fire is charged with electrical energy, which causes a spectral shift towards purple.
I assume the rest of it is some kind of highly energized liquid, probably analogous to liquid flame.
It appears that Toothless can vary the strength of the blast, from mildly irritating to extremely powerful (or anywhere inbetween) depending on what he needs the fire to do.
A full strength blast is most likely analogous to a small nuclear warhead in terms of effect, since one shot knocks the Green Death over on it's side.
Also, there was a scene in the tv show where Toothless fires an "airburst detonation" into the sky (he wasn't aiming at anything, just making a fireworks display). The resulting explosion sends a pulse blast across the entire sky. That level of power can only be done with a nuclear level reaction.
So, I'm assuming it's a high energy electrical reaction combined with fire and not necessarily something that exists in science as we know it.
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