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Post by blackrose108 on Aug 12, 2012 0:23:38 GMT -5
So they're essentially, functionally, the Dreamworks' versions of "Day of the Dreader" and "How to Train Your Viking", side stories not essential to the main plot. I guess if GOTNF had never existed, Meatlug's gender and the tail stabilizer actually pretty seamlessly fit into canon, so I guess it does make sense for GOTNF to be noncanoncial. And given that a much smaller population will have seen the shorts than the TV show and especially the movie, I guess that really makes sense. Can't expect random people who hopped in on the show to be familiar with GOTNF, which to NON VIKINGS would be relatively obscure. I DIDN'T KNOW YOU LIKED HICCSTRID!! It's not like you were in my stream or anything. XDXDXDXD To be honest all the fangirl horniness in that stream frightened me immenselyI like their dynamic tons too. They're definitely something new. Yeah, but that kind of diminishes the purpose of Toothless getting rid of the tail at the end if it's just gonna come back in the series. But I'm just thinking that thinking about this too much will result in permanent brain damage. And OF COURSE I LOVE HICCSTRID! I could fangirl and analyze the heck out of that couple for hours! So if there is a Hiccstrid episode in the near future, prepare to hear me run my mouth for days about it.
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Post by toothless11 on Aug 12, 2012 0:27:26 GMT -5
Tjhat was something that I really liked in GOTNF as well...It was probably one of my favorite parts. It just shows how strong their friendship is, an how Toothless preferred to fly wit Hiccup's aid rather than on his own... Maybe you're right. Thinking about all this will give us head aches The short probably never happened so...
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Post by crownflame on Aug 12, 2012 0:56:26 GMT -5
Yeah, but that kind of diminishes the purpose of Toothless getting rid of the tail at the end if it's just gonna come back in the series. But I'm just thinking that thinking about this too much will result in permanent brain damage. And OF COURSE I LOVE HICCSTRID! I could fangirl and analyze the heck out of that couple for hours! So if there is a Hiccstrid episode in the near future, prepare to hear me run my mouth for days about it. It doesn't diminish anything if GOTNF never happened. Which seems to be the case. :C I WAS BEING SARCASTIC. IT WAS BLATANTLY OBVIOUS. XD
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Post by blackrose108 on Aug 12, 2012 1:02:30 GMT -5
Gahz, internet sarcasm...it always slips past me
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Post by crownflame on Aug 12, 2012 1:25:41 GMT -5
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The sad thing is that I've been in the process of writing a story about Hiccup and Astrid getting stuck in a blizzard with their dragons and trying to stay warm for almost a year now.
The sadder thing? My first story was about Hookfang getting a toothache, and Snotlout being a major wimp and getting Hiccup to try to take care of it (the SADDEST thing being that I guessed Hookfang's gender wrong :C ).
WTF TV SHOW. My ideas must be too predictable or something. XD
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Post by Serimon on Aug 12, 2012 3:14:06 GMT -5
I also really love GotNF. I wonder what Dean DeBlois thinks about all of this because he was executive producer of GotNF. And so many people that worked on the first film, also worked on GotNF. And now they are working on the sequel, and also working closely with the team of RoB... And given that a much smaller population will have seen the shorts than the TV show and especially the movie, I guess that really makes sense. Can't expect random people who hopped in on the show to be familiar with GOTNF, which to NON VIKINGS would be relatively obscure. Here is "GotNF" DVD Sales: 401,441 Units Sold.
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Post by blackrose108 on Aug 12, 2012 10:57:02 GMT -5
UNRELATED The sad thing is that I've been in the process of writing a story about Hiccup and Astrid getting stuck in a blizzard with their dragons and trying to stay warm for almost a year now. The sadder thing? My first story was about Hookfang getting a toothache, and Snotlout being a major wimp and getting Hiccup to try to take care of it (the SADDEST thing being that I guessed Hookfang's gender wrong :C ). WTF TV SHOW. My ideas must be too predictable or something. XD I think just getting them trapped somewhere for an episode was the major idea there...but I never thought of an avalanche. I was thinking more of a snow storm as well. And I actually wasn't expecting a toothache in episode 2, I don't know what I was thinking it was...but not a toothache. Plus, anyone who saw Gift automatically assumed Hookfang was female because he was shown with a baby. But I guess they just failed to show his mate. Or maybe they originally wanted to make him a her but then changed their mind right in time for the tv show.....? I don't know. I love Gift, but now it just confuses me
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Post by crownflame on Aug 12, 2012 14:56:38 GMT -5
I think just getting them trapped somewhere for an episode was the major idea there...but I never thought of an avalanche. I was thinking more of a snow storm as well. And I actually wasn't expecting a toothache in episode 2, I don't know what I was thinking it was...but not a toothache. Plus, anyone who saw Gift automatically assumed Hookfang was female because he was shown with a baby. But I guess they just failed to show his mate. Or maybe they originally wanted to make him a her but then changed their mind right in time for the tv show.....? I don't know. I love Gift, but now it just confuses me Well, I was already thrown by Gift anyway. XD In the books, Snotlout has a FEMALE Monstrous Nightmare named FIREWORM. I wrote most of my story with her as Fireworm, then had to Find>replace and make her Hookfang instead. Now I'm thinking about going back in and changing "she's" to "he's". But meh. XD
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Post by blackrose108 on Aug 12, 2012 15:46:30 GMT -5
Haha, that's exactly why I'm waiting for the tv show to really start before I write any in-canon stories. Cause I thought that the genders were all finalized in Gift but I guess not. And what are Barf and Belch? Male or Female? Who knows?
But so far we've got Meatlug as female, Hookfang as male, Stormfly as female, and Toothless as male. So it's pretty even, I suppose.
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Post by Trainer Rosabeth on Aug 12, 2012 16:29:30 GMT -5
really i think the genders are perfectly just like that (Meatlung:female Hookfang:male Stormfly:female Toothless:male) but it would be cool if one head was male and the other was female (ever think of it strange but cool)
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Post by blackrose108 on Aug 12, 2012 16:41:42 GMT -5
Yeah, that would be cool, but it would make mating extremely difficult if each head was it's opposite gender. I like to think that a zippleback with a male and female head is a strange rarity or disorder.
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Post by Trainer Rosabeth on Aug 12, 2012 16:50:51 GMT -5
or maybe just you know brother and sister thing it would make better sense
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Post by crownflame on Aug 12, 2012 16:53:48 GMT -5
Well, lizards are actually pretty famous for hermaphroditic tendancies (and dragons are MAGIC!!! so they can be anything ever). I'd be perfectly willing to accept Zipplebacks as being both, though that might be too "mature" a theme for a kids' show (then again, this is a kid's show with multiple amputees, a man who was apparently brutally mentally disabled by a dragon, scat, and beer, so... XD).
I thought that the Zippleback was being referred to as male... but I'm not sure where I heard that.
What would make a HEAD "female" or "male" though?
I actually toyed for a while with a concept where Hiccup found a Zippleback that hatched separately; two dragons in the same egg that both had one head, one tail, one front leg, and one back leg. He proceeded to make a little leather garmet to bind them together and help them learn how to walk (though I guess an attempted surgery might make more sense, derp.) I really wonder how their innards are distributed (but then, I have an ungodly horrible fascination with dragon innards. XD).
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Post by Trainer Rosabeth on Aug 12, 2012 16:56:49 GMT -5
*gigging* sorry can't help but think of it
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Post by Shade on Aug 13, 2012 23:04:40 GMT -5
I can't wait for this episode. Seriously.
And since I'm too lazy to go back and read... what's the talk about GOTNF having never happened?
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