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Post by buckmana on Mar 11, 2014 2:21:20 GMT -5
I've been wondering about this.
During the tv series, two new named dragons are added, Thornado and Torch.
I haven't seen the episode yet, but according to what I read about the second season, Torch reappears as an adult dragon.
So, is it possible that we may see Thornado and Torch in the sequel movie?
I'd like them to make an appearance, but usually with tv shows, they are kept seperate from the movies to avoid complications.
And as an aside, what about Gobber's Boneknapper?
We've never really seen this dragon return, aside from it's one appearance.
Could that also show up in the movie sequel?
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Post by Moo on Mar 18, 2014 19:29:15 GMT -5
I'd wager that adding Torch probably isn't viable, but Thornado would be a useful asset to have in it, stopping Stoick being ground bound.
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Post by buckmana on Mar 25, 2014 10:03:52 GMT -5
Well, Stoick does have a dragon, but it's not Thornado. Skull CrusherI'm still trying to understand why if Stoick already had a dragon in the series, they didn't carry that dragon over into the movie. Surely refining the Thunderdrum CGI model to movie resolution would be simpler then creating an entirely new dragon from scratch? Also, it breaks continuity pretty heavily! Please don't tell me they don't care about keeping the tv and movie chronology consistent. |
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Post by A Guest on Mar 25, 2014 17:01:38 GMT -5
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Post by buckmana on Apr 3, 2014 3:39:52 GMT -5
I saw the trailer and there's a Timberjack flying alongside Toothless and some other dragons.
Given that the Timberjack is of comparable size to a Typhoomerang, I guess it wasn't as impractical as it appeared.
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Post by Rawr,I'mADragon! on May 26, 2014 12:04:50 GMT -5
Well, Stoick does have a dragon, but it's not Thornado. Skull CrusherI'm still trying to understand why if Stoick already had a dragon in the series, they didn't carry that dragon over into the movie. Surely refining the Thunderdrum CGI model to movie resolution would be simpler then creating an entirely new dragon from scratch? Also, it breaks continuity pretty heavily! Please don't tell me they don't care about keeping the tv and movie chronology consistent. So then the fans get the excitement of creating OCs of this new species. Oh, and so they could create profit from the toys that will most likely come out. |
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Post by rubywings91 on Jun 9, 2014 10:59:03 GMT -5
Thornado had to leave in one of the last episodes of the series to take care of baby thunderdrums and it was stated that it would take a few years. Maybe he's still off doing that.
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Post by toothlessdaydream7 on Jun 15, 2014 0:10:35 GMT -5
The whole baby Thunderdrums thing was solely to get Thornado out of the picture so Skullcrusher could be smoothly put in his place for HTTYD 2.
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Post by Sunny on Jun 19, 2014 1:16:13 GMT -5
I had the feeling that the dragons weren't really belonging to anyone, but rather living alongside them. I can see it being possible for more than one dragon a person and vice versa?
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Post by buckmana on Jun 20, 2014 2:59:23 GMT -5
In the tv series, although I haven't seen the episode, the members of the Dragon Academy acquire a Terrible Terror to train in addition to their primary dragon.
So I suppose this means they have two dragons each, although only the one that Hiccup trains appears more then once.
But you'd have to be careful about choosing another dragon, mostly because you might make your primary dragon jealous.
And the second dragon you pick would have to be compatible with your first dragon, otherwise they'd be fighting with each other all the time.
However, in terms of training, only one human can train a particular dragon, as it appears dragons don't respond well to more then one trainer.
Barf and Belch could only be flown by the twins for example, when Snotlout and Fishlegs tried to ride them, they failed.
Also, the trainer teaches specific skills to their dragon, which would only be known by the trainer and nobody else.
Now that I think about it, why would a dragon need to leave Berk to raise their offspring?
Based on Gift of the Night Fury, they only leave to hatch their eggs, then return shortly afterwards with the hatchlings.
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Post by Sunny on Jun 23, 2014 2:38:32 GMT -5
But you'd have to be careful about choosing another dragon, mostly because you might make your primary dragon jealous. And the second dragon you pick would have to be compatible with your first dragon, otherwise they'd be fighting with each other all the time. However, in terms of training, only one human can train a particular dragon, as it appears dragons don't respond well to more then one trainer. Barf and Belch could only be flown by the twins for example, when Snotlout and Fishlegs tried to ride them, they failed. true, it could just depend what personality your dragon has, i can see some being more open to sharing than others, some might even live alongside family.. i wonder how dragons interact with their relatives. Now that I think about it, why would a dragon need to leave Berk to raise their offspring? Based on Gift of the Night Fury, they only leave to hatch their eggs, then return shortly afterwards with the hatchlings. it might just be an instinct, different climate, maybe something to do with the red death? if i recall correctly, that lair contained a bunch of dragon eggs. |
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Post by buckmana on Jun 24, 2014 0:55:24 GMT -5
As I understand it with dragons, it's not so much species that matters as personality.
If you try to force two dragons together who are incompatible, they'll get aggressive towards each other.
Sharpshot (Hiccup's Terrible Terror) was categorized by high intelligence, which was also shared by Toothless, so they would be compatible dragons.
As regards species, I've never seen any direct evidence that the majority of dragons are hostile towards other dragons.
For example, when a Terrible Terror calls out for help, Stormfly comes down from the sky and snatches it off the ground.
Smothering Smokebreaths are an exception, because they feel threatened by larger dragons.
Since they're no larger then Terrible Terrors, this may just be basic insecurity on their part.
Typhoomerangs and Changewings will attack dragons near their nests or offspring, but under normal circumstances are not directly aggressive.
The reason the Dragons leave Berk to hatch their eggs is they need a specific environment to hatch them, one that has lots of tidal pools to mitigate the violent explosion when the eggs hatch.
Once the eggs have hatched, the site serves no purpose and they take their hatchlings back to whatever they regard as home, Berk in this case.
If the Baby Thunderdrums were out of their eggs, there would be no need for Thornado to leave at all, since they've already hatched and don't require the tidal pools at all.
Although, according to Bork, who sat on a Thunderdrum egg by accident, when it hatches, the sound of the explosion "will rattle the sky". It launched Bork clear across the island when it hatched!
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Post by Sunny on Jun 24, 2014 23:07:06 GMT -5
Yup, the dragons seem just as diverse personality-wise as people are. So I'm sure some would prefer to go solo and others to live in groups. It's quite possible there aren't even numbers of dragon:human
What about the dragon eggs in the volcano/red death cavern? It's strange that all the dragons seemed to have nests on the ledges, but when they aren't under the control of the red death they change the hatching environments entirely.
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Post by ToothlessDayDream777 on Jun 25, 2014 14:30:46 GMT -5
Well, a thousand of those eggs were the Death's.
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Post by Sunny on Jun 25, 2014 22:55:18 GMT -5
Well, a thousand of those eggs were the Death's. Really? Was that confirmed somewhere? |
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