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Post by Trainer Rosabeth on Sept 19, 2012 16:27:59 GMT -5
;D
well the thread of the part two sixth episode !
what do you guys think will happen?
can Hiccup prove Mildew guilty?
What about Alvin?
write your thoughts and ideas here (and after the episode your review)
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Post by Shade on Sept 19, 2012 18:42:56 GMT -5
My thoughts:
It's gonna be AMAZING. Maybe even better than IDWT.
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Post by iluvhttyd on Sept 19, 2012 19:17:58 GMT -5
I think, if there is a battle, Stoick and Hiccup will fight side by side. Or Hiccup and Astrid...or...I think I read somewhere that Toothless might have a near-death experience...I hate to say it, but I hope so, so I can see Hiccup's reaction. I mean, Hiccup was almost in tears when he said goodbye to Toothless, imagine how he'd be if Toothless almost died.
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Post by sairen on Sept 19, 2012 19:41:14 GMT -5
You know, I'm wondering if they'll show Hiccup actually wielding a weapon in his left hand.
In the book, it was separating the vikings from Berk and then catching them off guard. Basically disarming them. In the show, it's taking the weapons and dragons away. And we already know Hiccup will be Alvin's clutches, which did happen in the book.
So I'm curious if there IS fighting, if Hiccup will actually use his proper hand and start a plot thread like that. (If you watch the movie, the ONLY time Hiccup holds a weapon in his left hand is when he's cutting the rope and when he's holding it defensively. The fact he's primarily using his right could be part of why he failed so badly at it. Like he was in the book, though he only discovered that recently.)
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Post by Trainer Rosabeth on Sept 20, 2012 15:56:48 GMT -5
I'm hoping Hiccup gonna wield his sword sooner or later ( in early development he was gonna use a sword in Dragon Training but they switch him to just carrying an axe) i mean come on when your making a series loosely based on the books you have to have some things from it (it's bad enough they didn't put Camcazi in the series yet  ) and Toothless having a near-death experience it's kind of a good idea maybe Hiccup might find a way to safe him at the last minute! |
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Post by mrjop2 on Sept 20, 2012 16:31:50 GMT -5
I believe Alvin will attack Berk, and Hiccup races off to retrieve the dragons to ward off the attack. Berk is greatful for the dragons assistance, that they allow them to return, thus thwarting Mildews attempt to rid the dragons from the island.
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Post by Trainer Rosabeth on Sept 20, 2012 16:56:31 GMT -5
that to
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Ridersofderp
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Post by Ridersofderp on Sept 20, 2012 17:59:17 GMT -5
I don't think there will be a battle on Berk.
I don't think Alvin is there to invade berk.
I mean not imediatly.
His ship is likely spotted by hiccup and Astrid just after the ending scene of IDWT, while they're heading back to the village. (It's also possible that his crew "fished" the proofs against Midlew, as the ship is rather close of the cliff).
I really don't think one ship is enough to invade berk, even if berk is disarmed and dragonless. Plus the crew seems to be rather reduce, outside Alvin and one of his mens (and maybe another, in the smaller boat when alvin jumps out of it) we don't see any other outcast.
Then we know from Comic con that alvin see the dragons as a weapon . And in The teaser, he clearly insist that they are there "For one man, the dragons conqueror."
So that's it. Alvin somehow heard that there is someone in Berk who found a way to train dragons, someone, he , in his warchief vocable, surnomed "the dragons conqueror". And he's there to take that man and his "secrets", with or without his approval, to have his own dragon army.
By the way, the "dragon conqueror" is Hiccup.
So here's how I think the episode will go:
Alvin lands on berk, take a momentary control of berk, (maybe by taking ostages) Ask/search for the "dragon conqueror", discover it's hiccup. But Maybe he allready knows that the man he looks for is the son of stoick the vast.
From there things goes by themself: Alvin orders to Hiccup to teach him the secrets of dragon training, but the thing is impossible since there is no more dragons on Berk.
So Alvin takes hiccup with him to dragon Island and from there... I cant tell yet.
But, It's also possible that like in the books, Alvin first introduce himself as a peacefull guy (with all his weapons and stuff, it's a wrong start). He could pretend to be a nice chief from a far away tribe who wants to know how to train dragons to stop peacefully the raids his village is suffering and help his owns. So hiccup would galdly accept, lead him to dragons island, and once they're there... TA-DAAA! I'm actually the bad guy!
The "is the sword really necessary?" scene totally seems to take place on dragons island beach, with alvin's boat behind.
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Post by Trainer Rosabeth on Sept 20, 2012 18:05:14 GMT -5
O.O Once again never thought of that!!!
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Post by mrjop2 on Sept 21, 2012 1:51:20 GMT -5
Spoilers ahead!
Well, the synopsis of that episode, according to Direct TV is this: "With the dragons gone, Berk faces an attack by their sworn enemies." So this as attack. A web site that follows the series give a little more detail. Alvin was cast out of Berk, and has planned to exact revenge on Berk.
So this is gonna be an attack on Berk. It may be a stealthy attack, I don't know, but he is taking advantage of the situation Mildew caused.
I'm excited about this. They said this series was going to be darker, and it really hasn't been up to this point. This may be where it begins.
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Post by poofiemus on Sept 21, 2012 10:26:39 GMT -5
If Alvin was originally from Berk and then exiled, the theory of him deliberately coordinating with Mildew gains some more ground, as then there is a fairly large chance that he and Mildew were at least acquainted pre-banishment. They'd also probably feel a certain degree of comraderie, since they're then both Berk natives treated as outsiders--one just more extremely than the other.
It's hard to tell how they're going to be handling this "attack", but again, if Alvin's originally from Berk in this version it makes the Alvin-starts-nice-and-then-turns-into-a-jerkass approach less likely--if anything, I'd guess now that that's now his *backstory* rather than his current method. Certainly sets up a plausible pattern/framework for whatever he did to get kicked off the island.
I agree though that this is probably the big turning point in tone--as far as I'm concerned this week's episode started doing that already. Hopefully they'll keep it up!
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Post by Trainer Rosabeth on Sept 21, 2012 17:43:09 GMT -5
Yup
and i have a hunch thiat Toothless is gonna shield Hiccup at one point in the episode
"no ones gonna hurt my Hiccup" -Toothless XD
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Post by sairen on Sept 22, 2012 15:13:34 GMT -5
Just sharing a bit of my hope for this episode.
We know Mildew is guilty of getting the dragons banished, but it seems almost like shooting yourself in the foot by getting rid of him this early. Even though blowing up the armory deliberately is kind of a serious offense. Still, Mildew represents a serious blockade that Hiccup needs to overcome. Namely people that have, more than likely, very justifiable reasons to have reservations. Prejudice is a strong thing and it's hard to overcome even when it doesn't involve the fire breathing reptiles that set your homes on fire and killed your family. Mildew is just the vocal piece, but I imagine there are others like that. To get rid of the visible representation of this problem so early seems like a bad move. But how do you keep Mildew around when he did something so serious?
At this point, the only one with PROOF is Hiccup. And Astrid is the only one he told his suspicions. And Alvin is coming in. And personally I still don't believe Mildew would deliberately put the WHOLE village in danger. If he hated them that much, he could have left.
We know Hiccup doesn't like Mildew, and he has every right to be angry that Mildew got rid of the dragons. But Mildew is most likely doing it for the reasons the vikings agreed to get rid of the dragons. If Hiccup is to ever truly make peace between dragons and humans, he needs to be willing to work with people like Mildew. To make someone like Mildew see the truth that the dragons are not monsters.
So I kind of hope that Hiccup has the choice to tell everyone about Mildew's involvement, that HICCUP has the choice on whether or not Mildew should be banished...and decide not to. Either by putting all the blame of vandalism on Alvin or something else. Because I think it would be a great way for Hiccup to prove that he is willing to work with both dragons AND vikings to make sure peace will happen. And not just take the easy way out when it's presented, which old Hiccup would have probably done.
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Post by Trainer Rosabeth on Sept 22, 2012 15:53:15 GMT -5
hmmm now that i think about i guess that would be better than Mildew being banish i hope so.
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Post by Fury on Sept 23, 2012 13:11:25 GMT -5
I'm thinking Alvin will be looking for the 'dragon conquerer' so he can teach him the secrets of how to train dragons. I mean, vikings just don't say 'hey, can you teach me this?'. They kidnap the person they need to learn the stuff from, and say 'teach me or else' with a sword up against the person's back, how in this case, is Hiccup.
I may of not read the books, and only know about Alvin from fanfiction, but to me that seems like that is what is going to happen. I don't thnk they will do anything about mildew yet,though. They would be too occupied with this current situation. It is a plot device to get people to keep reading, or in this case, watching. Making a bunch of episodes together that are so closely related, that the fans NEED to watch them.
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