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Post by astridgoesforaspin on Jun 29, 2014 20:29:03 GMT -5
Please Keep Hiccup and Toothless together at the end of HTTYD3
Help us! Sign!
www.change.org/en-CA/petitions/dreamworks-animation-please-keep-toothless-and-hiccup-together-at-the-end-of-how-to-train-your-dragon-3
Help us.
We need it.
You might know me - I'm Astrid Goes For A Spin. I usually reside on Fanfiction.net. I'm also an active member of Sticks and Stones. I've been in the forum since Gift of the Night Fury, and How To Train Your Dragon is everything to me.
I've long come to believe that this movie was a personal gift for me from the man upstairs - it provided something to focus on, something to get excited about, something to inspire learning about everything from the earliest prosthetics in Ancient Egypt to how to properly light a scene to the method of making a dragonship. It's honed my writing skills, and my analytical skills - something that I can keep looking at, and it doesn't stop giving. There's never a shortage of new things to see, new things to learn. It showed me the world in a completely different light, and because of it, I've found a place on the internet and even in "real life" where I can speak freely with no fear of embarrassment about what's important to me and collaborate on things that eventually reach past Berk.
I've always had a fantasy world at my beck and call - whether it was taking a field trip through a large intestine with Ms. Frizzle on her Magic School Bus, bumping along a new trail west in a covered wagon with Laura and Mary, flying on Appa's back on the way to the Fire Lord with Katara, Sokka, Toph, and Aang, walking along the halls of Hogwarts with Harry, Ron and Hermione, or safely residing in the squadroom of NCIS. Things that link these interests have been the familial relationships - between the Friz and her class, Laura and her Pa, "Team Avatar," Gibbs and his team, and Harry and his two best friends. They show me hope - hope that all people aren't selfish and miserable, that there are heroes, self-sacrificing and brave and bold. They help when the world hurts.
But since 2010, my fantasy world of choice, my place to recede from the world and reassure myself, is in the skies with Hiccup and Toothless, where utter dependency ties them together in the best way, where love trumps guilt and passion overcomes tradition and cowardice. And even though they don't wield guns and badges or the power of the ten thousand previous Avatars or even Harry's power of love, it's with them that I feel the most safe.
But if Hiccup and Toothless are separated or Toothless is killed, it will stop giving. It will stop providing and shielding and reassuring me. It will stop reminding me that not everyone is bad (because there had to be good people to think of the movie!). The first movie, my sanctuary, my refuge, will lose the magic that rescued me, the magic that gave me a best friend, a group of people to develop my skills and interests with on the internet. Berk – the rustic wooden houses and the perfect family I imagine I eavesdrop on that exists between Hiccup and Toothless. For them, the sky isn’t the limit.
DreamWorks, please don’t break this. Dean Deblois, I appeal directly to you: don’t chain them – and me – to the ground. In your own words, you can do better. Try.
Sign this. Put in on DeviantArt. Post it on Facebook. Tweet about it. Send it to the New York Times. Be annoying. Be persistent. I will. Help me. Help everyone who cares, everyone who keeps returning to Berk for the same reasons I do.
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Post by Aeterna on Jul 28, 2014 11:28:35 GMT -5
I hope this doesn't catch on too much. I'm really hoping for them to be split. I don't cry easily with films, the second film didn't even make me come close. I grow tired of the endless list of film franchises that keep the protagonists together. I just hope this next one goes the little bit further on being dark. If they're split, I cry. I need that. The feelings of sadness in media somehow feels good. Most will know the unexplainable feeling you get while crying about films and TV shows. This is quickly becoming my favourite series, and for it to take that one step further and take its place as my all time favourite, they must be split. I sincerely hope it happens and this series doesn't get an all out fully happy ending.
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Post by night fury100 on Aug 11, 2014 2:52:10 GMT -5
don't worry I will sign up because Hiccup and Toothless are meant to be togever forever #DontsplitToothlessandHiccupup
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Post by Sunny on Aug 14, 2014 0:10:55 GMT -5
the entire trilogy was thought out from the moment the first movie was developed. it's based on the books. i doubt, and i sincerely hope they end it how they intend to. it will be sad, but it will be a much better story that way.
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Post by Nate Fury on Aug 14, 2014 13:14:41 GMT -5
the entire trilogy was thought out from the moment the first movie was developed. it's based on the books. i doubt, and i sincerely hope they end it how they intend to. it will be sad, but it will be a much better story that way. Actually, Dean DeBlois has admitted in interviews that he didn't come up with the idea of a trilogy until he was finished working on the first movie. For example, the entire plot thread with Valka in HTTYD2 was created later on. The books set up the dragon disappearance from the very first page, but that was never the intention of Chris Sanders and Dean DeBlois. Their only goal was to rescue the project from development hell, which ultimately resulted in them reconceiving the plot and making it entirely different from the books. It's kind of ironic that Dean has now decided he wants to mirror the book series' ending when they've been so successful by NOT following the books. I think this decision will backfire; the petition is merely the first indication of that. I agree with the petition. It seems like almost every movie and book of my childhood that involved a strong friendship had the characters say goodbye at the end (or killed off the animal character). I'm not against a bittersweet ending, but for pete's sake come up with something more original. I was impressed with the uniqueness of the ending of the first HTTYD. I had been expecting Toothless to be killed, so having the hero lose his leg was such a fresh and unexpected way to have a bittersweet ending, especially considering the way it paralleled what he did to Toothless. Actually, it almost seemed more like a happy ending because Hiccup had gained so much more than he lost. The ending of HTTYD2 felt a touch more sombre, but I was impressed once again by how they paralleled Hiccup and Toothless, showing they're stronger together than apart. Aside from how much I dislike the idea of a separation, the logistics of it don't even make sense. I don't think Dean would actually kill off Toothless, so I don't see any way he can realistically separate them without it coming across as forced. Toothless needs Hiccup to fly; his tail-fin is not going to suddenly grow back (if it did, that would be really "dues ex machina"). Any fin that Hiccup might build for him (such as the one in Gift of the Night Fury) would require periodic maintenance, or it might fail and leave him to die. I hope the petition shows Dean that fans don't want the same ending as the books. It was never meant to be that way and it's totally unnecessary. I could go on all day, but... /end rant. |
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Post by Sunny on Aug 31, 2014 9:26:37 GMT -5
That's what I meant! Sorry I didn't phrase that too well. What I meant to get across was just that the third movie is too far in development for massive plot changes and has been for a long while. I disagree, the entire project was heavily influenced by Cressida Cowell's series. The details may differ, but they tried very hard with the help of Cressida, to keep to the spirit of the books. Thus the dark and rather solemn atmosphere at times, while lighthearted and funny too. The reason for changes in the movie is just something that happens during a shift in medium. Books generally don't translate well to movies, and vice versa. However this is only due to the specific plot points and not the overall theme. I feel that the first two movies, while different, kept the same spirit and feel as the books. I really don't see how the petition is any indication in of itself either. I will agree that it does face the risk of being cliche. But also that leaving on a happy note may take away from the maturity of the trilogy. The ending should explain the disappearance of all dragons, not just Toothless, and I have faith that they will execute their plans in a good way as they have done so before. I worried about similar things with the second movie, with Hiccup's mother joining the films, but I was incredibly happy with how they pulled it off. This is what suprisingly makes me optimistic. When thinking of ways for the movie to end, all the ones I would be unhappy with can't work. They might screw it up I suppose. But I feel it's more likely they have something really unique planned. Or at least that's what I'm counting on. I really hope that whatever happens, you'll be happy with it. I don't mean to argue or anything of the sort, incase it sounded like it. I understand the apprehension to just accept such a huge decision. But I think it's best to allow them to take care of it themselves, as they've proved themselves more than capable in the past. very long winded reply gosh sorry friend... TL;DR: Too late into production to change so much of the plan. And while there is a possibility for it to be complete toss, personally I feel like the writers etc. have proven they can pull of often cliche tropes in ways which are awesome. So fingers crossed I guess? |
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Post by toothlessdaydream7 on Apr 12, 2015 22:16:39 GMT -5
It'd be sad, but would it be evil if me to think this kind of bittersweet ending would be pretty legit?
Also, pretty cool to see astridgoesforaspin here!
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Post by Green Bay, WI on Apr 24, 2016 20:02:49 GMT -5
Please Keep Hiccup and Toothless together at the end of HTTYD3
Help us! Sign!
www.change.org/en-CA/petitions/dreamworks-animation-please-keep-toothless-and-hiccup-together-at-the-end-of-how-to-train-your-dragon-3
Help us.
We need it.
You might know me - I'm Astrid Goes For A Spin. I usually reside on Fanfiction.net. I'm also an active member of Sticks and Stones. I've been in the forum since Gift of the Night Fury, and How To Train Your Dragon is everything to me.
I've long come to believe that this movie was a personal gift for me from the man upstairs - it provided something to focus on, something to get excited about, something to inspire learning about everything from the earliest prosthetics in Ancient Egypt to how to properly light a scene to the method of making a dragonship. It's honed my writing skills, and my analytical skills - something that I can keep looking at, and it doesn't stop giving. There's never a shortage of new things to see, new things to learn. It showed me the world in a completely different light, and because of it, I've found a place on the internet and even in "real life" where I can speak freely with no fear of embarrassment about what's important to me and collaborate on things that eventually reach past Berk.
I've always had a fantasy world at my beck and call - whether it was taking a field trip through a large intestine with Ms. Frizzle on her Magic School Bus, bumping along a new trail west in a covered wagon with Laura and Mary, flying on Appa's back on the way to the Fire Lord with Katara, Sokka, Toph, and Aang, walking along the halls of Hogwarts with Harry, Ron and Hermione, or safely residing in the squadroom of NCIS. Things that link these interests have been the familial relationships - between the Friz and her class, Laura and her Pa, "Team Avatar," Gibbs and his team, and Harry and his two best friends. They show me hope - hope that all people aren't selfish and miserable, that there are heroes, self-sacrificing and brave and bold. They help when the world hurts.
But since 2010, my fantasy world of choice, my place to recede from the world and reassure myself, is in the skies with Hiccup and Toothless, where utter dependency ties them together in the best way, where love trumps guilt and passion overcomes tradition and cowardice. And even though they don't wield guns and badges or the power of the ten thousand previous Avatars or even Harry's power of love, it's with them that I feel the most safe.
But if Hiccup and Toothless are separated or Toothless is killed, it will stop giving. It will stop providing and shielding and reassuring me. It will stop reminding me that not everyone is bad (because there had to be good people to think of the movie!). The first movie, my sanctuary, my refuge, will lose the magic that rescued me, the magic that gave me a best friend, a group of people to develop my skills and interests with on the internet. Berk – the rustic wooden houses and the perfect family I imagine I eavesdrop on that exists between Hiccup and Toothless. For them, the sky isn’t the limit.
DreamWorks, please don’t break this. Dean Deblois, I appeal directly to you: don’t chain them – and me – to the ground. In your own words, you can do better. Try.
Sign this. Put in on DeviantArt. Post it on Facebook. Tweet about it. Send it to the New York Times. Be annoying. Be persistent. I will. Help me. Help everyone who cares, everyone who keeps returning to Berk for the same reasons I do.
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Post by Green Bay, WI on Apr 24, 2016 20:09:05 GMT -5
Please don't separate Toothless and Hiccup. I have enjoyed the movies thus far and to end either of them would make me wanna sell my DVDs and call it a day. It was bad enough that Stoik and the kind alpha dragon died.
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Post by Bradley on Jun 20, 2016 13:03:00 GMT -5
I agree.
I love this series (Top 5 all-time), but if they split that would ruin it for me. I own the 1st 2 movies and think they are incredible.
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Post by Mel on Jun 29, 2016 8:47:44 GMT -5
This is the most amazing movie I ever seen, I can't stop thinking of it after the first movie. I was really happy to hear the second series coming that time. I could not imagine Stoick and the kind alpha would end up in tragedy. I thought the 3rd series could salvage my lost and sadness but I was devastated when I read the trivia on IMDb. I could never imagine toothless leaving hiccup. They're meant to be so please I beg Deblois not to separate them.
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Post by Tia on Dec 12, 2016 23:47:58 GMT -5
this is my top fave kids movie, I watch everything with How To Train Your Dragon series and I would hate to see Toothless and Hiccup part. Because in a way you kinda feel connected to them after all the mini series on Netflix and both movies. I agree with everyone who does not want these two to be separated, I beg Deblois from the bottom of my heart to not separate these two because they have become apart of our own little family.
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