NoReality95
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Post by NoReality95 on Apr 27, 2010 14:23:53 GMT -5
I thought this up a while ago after thinking of how Toothless was very...disobedient at first with Hiccup. You can say that's because Hiccup was a human, a enemy of Toothless' kind. But when the Terrible Terror's came, Toothless wasn't very happy with sharing his fish. So this comes with me to think something. What if the reason Night Furies are rare is because the Queen Dragon ate them all because they wouldn't give up their kills. I mean Toothless didn't bring a kill when they went to the nest, even if he had Hiccup and Astrid.
Even in the nest we only see toothless, no other Night Furies! So could it be possible that the Night Furies are all gone because they never gave up their food, thus making them be killed? I mean for the most unknown dragon I can't believe a human killed them all.
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Post by Kuromori Falking Cross on Apr 27, 2010 14:39:30 GMT -5
Even in the nest we only see toothless, no other Night Furies! So could it be possible that the Night Furies are all gone because they never gave up their food, thus making them be killed? I mean for the most unknown dragon I can't believe a human killed them all. Consider it first, though. If there were more night furies, most likely they wouldn't be deemed rare. And we wouldn't want any other characters with Night furies, now would we? But... Your explanation makes a huge amount of sense... The queen might have ate them, but that also need the question of, how could a dragon so fast get eaten up so quickly? |
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NoReality95
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Post by NoReality95 on Apr 27, 2010 14:59:47 GMT -5
Even in the nest we only see toothless, no other Night Furies! So could it be possible that the Night Furies are all gone because they never gave up their food, thus making them be killed? I mean for the most unknown dragon I can't believe a human killed them all. Consider it first, though. If there were more night furies, most likely they wouldn't be deemed rare. And we wouldn't want any other characters with Night furies, now would we? But... Your explanation makes a huge amount of sense... The queen might have ate them, but that also need the question of, how could a dragon so fast get eaten up so quickly? True, they are fast. I have a feeling that either the Queen was once smaller and faster at some part of time or the other dragons were forced to attack the Night Furies and down them, causing them to be "down dragons" which we all know "A down dragon is a dead dragon." |
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Post by Zenoah on Apr 27, 2010 16:07:20 GMT -5
Hiccup did mention that it never steals food. Whihc got me curious as to how Toothless survived all that time without bringing in any kill.
My thought was that he swooped with the others, making it seem like he was giving up kill when he really was'nt.
Another thing, too, could be that other Furries just straight up left. Or, maybe Night Furries arnt really from that area/reigon and somehow Toothless got seperated and ended up submitting to the Nest.
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Post by Admin on Apr 28, 2010 1:58:30 GMT -5
I had a similar theory to Zen's first.
As for why there are not there, it is possible that the Death had those that disobeyed hunted down and killed. But I always thought that it was more for another reason. It is possible that, like some reptiles, most Night Furies are male. Lose a few females in the population, they start to die out. How? Not sure, but it would make sense.
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Post by realpeanut2004 on Apr 29, 2010 4:32:28 GMT -5
Even in the nest we only see toothless, no other Night Furies! So could it be possible that the Night Furies are all gone because they never gave up their food, thus making them be killed? I mean for the most unknown dragon I can't believe a human killed them all. But but but... if Toothless could kill Green Death in the movie, why can't the other Night Furies do as well?? |
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Post by Admin on Apr 29, 2010 23:33:44 GMT -5
Well, remember that Toothless seemed rather afriad of the Death. I doubt the others were all that much brave against it. Heck, EVERY dragon seemed terrified of it!
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Post by angel624 on Apr 29, 2010 23:51:54 GMT -5
I like the theory that Toothless migrated to Berk for some reason (bored, maybe?), then fell under Reddie's spell and never went home. And the other dragons give him a share of the food so that he can feed Reddie, as a gesture of gratitude for causing a distraction.
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Post by erivar on May 31, 2010 23:54:33 GMT -5
Even in the nest we only see toothless, no other Night Furies! So could it be possible that the Night Furies are all gone because they never gave up their food, thus making them be killed? I mean for the most unknown dragon I can't believe a human killed them all. The other Night Furies couldn't kill Green Death because they didn't have Hiccup helping them out and coming out with a good plan that was hatched out of observing the dragons and knowing things about them. Hiccup helping out was largely the reason Toothless was able to succeeded. |
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Post by Czarine on Jun 1, 2010 8:42:12 GMT -5
But but but... if Toothless could kill Green Death in the movie, why can't the other Night Furies do as well?? The other Night Furies couldn't kill Green Death because they didn't have Hiccup helping them out and coming out with a good plan that was hatched out of observing the dragons and knowing things about them. Hiccup helping out was largely the reason Toothless was able to succeeded. It's not like every Night Fury is the same, nor is any human. The heroes of a show wouldn't be heroes if every other character would be able to perform the same heroic deeds.  The combination of Hiccup and Toothless made it happen. |
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Post by Yelahflow on Jul 23, 2014 13:25:12 GMT -5
Since Hiccups mother recognized what Toothless was maybe she has seen them before because nobody in Berk knew what they looked like until Toothless came along
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Post by buckmana on Aug 9, 2014 13:32:00 GMT -5
For whatever reason, Toothless seems to live a solitary life.
Given that he is highly social, I assumed he sought out other dragons.
It seems Toothless' role in the battle was just to defend the other dragons, he had no interest in taking the viking's food.
I assume he was fast enough to catch his own, as he tries to take fish from the lake where he gets trapped.
And yes, I assume Valka had seen some Night Furies at some point.
But most likely it was very far from Berk.
Another theory is that somehow a Night Fury egg was brought to Berk from a great distance, it hatched and this was Toothless.
Since he didn't know where he was or how to get home, it's highly likely he just stayed where he was.
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Post by picard on Feb 15, 2016 16:09:32 GMT -5
Sorry for resurrecting a thread but I really want to add my 2c:
I don't think Night Furies are extinct, but I also do not think we will see them anytime soon, if at all. Reasons?
1) Night Furies are a night species. They are small, black and fast, extremely hard to notice at night (remember, originally neither shape, size or speed were known). During HTTYD 1, early on, it can be seen that Toothless sleeps during the day (or at least afternoon) and becomes active during the night. But humans and other dragons seem to be mostly active during the day; and Toothless himself adapted to Hiccup's day-is-for-work routine fairly early on. So even if there are other Night Furies around, we would not have seen them.
2) Related to above, Night Furies seem to be rather secretive and not easy on trusting someone. Hookfang, Stormfly, Meatlug etc. all seem to trust humans immediately after they realize they won't be harmed. Boneknapper allows humans to ride him home as a favor for giving him his bone. Toothless? Hiccup spared his life, set him free and fed him, yet he still throws him off once he realizes Hiccup is on his tail. Now this might also admittedly be due to different circumstances (Hiccup's influence on other dragons, but that doesn't explain the Boneknapper).
3) Remember how Toothless couldn't catch a fish in the first movie? Yet action takes place on an archipelago, and most dragons seem to eat primarily fish, with the exception of Red Death which prefers sheep (and humans, and dragons). Therefore, Night Furies (and Red Death) are not a native species to the archipelago. Night Furies in fact would likely be a continental species, or at least from a very large island. Toothless does eat mainly fish, but we see that Hiccup eats mainly fish, and he might simply be eating fish because that is what Hiccup eats most of the time. He does try to catch some in the first movie, but he also looks rather interested in birds as well - basically, at that point, he is so hungry he would eat anything (except Hiccup, apparently), and his attempts to catch fish are not necessarily indicative of Night Fury's normal eating habits. I would also like to draw attention to how Toothless has a very different design to other dragons. Most other dragons have large number of spikes and protrustions, but Toothless seems quite sleek.
4) Toothlesses echolocation makes sense as Night Furies are night fliers. However, there may be more clues than just that. When Toothless sleeps, he does one of two things: early in the first movie, he hangs from a branch like a bat. But later on, we see him warming up ground with his breath before curling on it. So combine echolocation and peculiar sleeping habits, and it would suggest that Night Furies live in either caves, or on volcanic ground / volcanic islands. Or a combination of two. If that is the case, black coloring also serves as camouflage during the rest on ashy ground.
5) Toothless has very large wings for his size. That might indicate that Night Furies habitually fly very long distances, like albatrosses. If that is the case, then they might be rare because each Night Fury would have a very large territory.
However, there are some darker indications:
1) Drogo seems to know a lot about Night Furies. His coat also looks like it is made from Night Fury's skin.
2) During the second movie Toothless is not interested in finding other Night Furies. However, that is contradicted by the "We Are A Family" two-parter, where he is very much interested in doing so. Maybe he simply gave up the hope after that one disappointment.
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Anyway, in my head canon, Night Furies come from the Central America. Don't know how plausible that is, though.
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Post by Night Fury’s friend on Jul 14, 2019 17:13:49 GMT -5
I thought this up a while ago after thinking of how Toothless was very...disobedient at first with Hiccup. You can say that's because Hiccup was a human, a enemy of Toothless' kind. But when the Terrible Terror's came, Toothless wasn't very happy with sharing his fish. So this comes with me to think something. What if the reason Night Furies are rare is because the Queen Dragon ate them all because they wouldn't give up their kills. I mean Toothless didn't bring a kill when they went to the nest, even if he had Hiccup and Astrid. Even in the nest we only see toothless, no other Night Furies! So could it be possible that the Night Furies are all gone because they never gave up their food, thus making them be killed? I mean for the most unknown dragon I can't believe a human killed them all. |
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Post by Night Light on Jul 14, 2019 17:19:43 GMT -5
I thought this up a while ago after thinking of how Toothless was very...disobedient at first with Hiccup. You can say that's because Hiccup was a human, a enemy of Toothless' kind. But when the Terrible Terror's came, Toothless wasn't very happy with sharing his fish. So this comes with me to think something. What if the reason Night Furies are rare is because the Queen Dragon ate them all because they wouldn't give up their kills. I mean Toothless didn't bring a kill when they went to the nest, even if he had Hiccup and Astrid. Even in the nest we only see toothless, no other Night Furies! So could it be possible that the Night Furies are all gone because they never gave up their food, thus making them be killed? I mean for the most unknown dragon I can't believe a human killed them all. |
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The combination of Hiccup and Toothless made it happen.
